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Terrorist attack in Florida
Topic Started: Jun 12 2016, 06:39 PM (4,867 Views)
Helvius Pertinax Augustus
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So there was a terrorist attack in Florida by someone ISIS affiliated. While it's a shame this happened, the media won't even wait until the bodies are cold to push their agenda. The man has been investigated by the FBI at least twice before, according to all these news sites and yet nothing was done about it. Obama was supposed to give a speech on it but I haven't seen the full speech, just the clip on CNN. After what he tried to pull directly after Sandy Hook I can imagine what he's going to try now.

Just a thought though, if someone at the club had a firearm to defend themselves, I don't think this would have gotten so far out of hand.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/20-dead-in-attack-on-orlando-gay-club.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/florida-shooting-attack-orlando-nightclub-160612080037582.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/orlando-nightclub-shooting-20-dead-terror-attack-at-florida-lgbt-club-gay-killed-explosion-bomb-a7077831.html

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/index.html
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You're pushing your agenda too, so you can't exactly call the media out on it.
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Exactly what did you want them to say that they did not?
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They aren't addressing the fact that he had legal firearm ownership. Hope this leads to more bans and harsher measures.

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Actually it was just mentioned in CNN
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Jun 12 2016, 06:51 PM
Actually it was just mentioned in CNN
I know I saw it on the news too, I was just drawing out irony from the OP's post

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There seriously should be a font for that kind of irony, don't you think?
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Jun 12 2016, 06:49 PM
They aren't addressing the fact that he had legal firearm ownership. Hope this leads to more bans and harsher measures.
He wasn't originally a US citizen, and they apparently had considered pulling his licenses but didn't.

This was more a crime against the LBGT community more than it was a crime in the name of Isis or Islamic extremism; but unfortunately, the media will completely ignore the fact that this was more about his dislike of gays, and they'll instead emphasize the part about this guy's affiliation with Islamic Extremism, because according to Fox News and Donald Trump, this is America and every Muslim is evil and out to get us.

I myself own a gun, and don't think people should be allowed to own high capacity firearms (firearms that carry more than 9 rounds for non-gun savvy people). There's no reason for weapons like that to be available outside military use.
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This should be less of a gun debate and more of a debate on effective intelligence. Attacking guns is attacking the symptom rather than the cause.


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Do you think he would have such a destructive hate for the LGBT community if it weren't for his Islamic extremism?
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It would still be a terrorist attack if they were a homophobe, no? It's really just delving into semantics, but if they swore allegiance to ISIS, I think that's a contributing factor too

Anyway, really sad event. Yes, civilians should not be allowed to have that kind of heavy equipment for the most part because it's massive over kill for home defense. Seriously, has there actually ever been a story where someone defended themselves successfully with an assault rifle?
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Jun 12 2016, 07:08 PM
Do you think he would have such a destructive hate for the LGBT community if it weren't for his Islamic extremism?
Yes because there are a s*** ton of non muslims who hate homosexuals and transgenders as well.


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Jun 12 2016, 06:59 PM
He wasn't originally a US citizen, and they apparently had considered pulling his licenses but didn't.
Both of these are false

http://abcnews.go.com/US/omar-mateen-suspected-orlando-night-club-shooter/story?id=39790797

The licenses were just expiring

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So, if someone affiliated with Neo-Nazism shot more than one-hundred people of a particular group, you wouldn't address the issue of Neo-Nazism because plenty of other people hate those people, too?

Also, I never said it was because he was a muslim, but an Islamic extremist (based on what Emiriti said). You had a knee-jerk reaction to jump to the defense of people I never implied.

Blegh.
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Mitas
Jun 12 2016, 06:42 PM
You're pushing your agenda too, so you can't exactly call the media out on it.
Everyone pushes an agenda ;)
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